This morning, like most other mornings this week, the first thing I do after switching on the computer is to check Sky News to see if Madeleine has been found.
I can’t say for sure why this case has affected me so much, I suspect (like so many parents who are constantly refreshing the news page) it’s due to a strong feeling of “there, but for the grace of God, go I”. What’s stunned me though, is how so many parents appear to blame the parents for Maddie’s disappearance.
Most, I’m sure, are reacting out of a primaeval defence mechanism. “I would never do something like that” is an immediate comfort – a way of proving to yourself it would never happen to you.
And yet, what the McCann’s did was not in any way unreasonable. Mark Warner actively discourage (and in some cases ban) young children from attending the restaurants in the evening. Their baby listening service involves nannies patrolling corridors and only listening at the doors at certain intervals – not much different from a parent checking at regular points in the evening – and a parent would go right inside to check, not just rely on hearing something at the door in those few seconds.
At that particular resort, due to its unusual layout, the nanny patrols weren’t even available – the choices were to take your child to a crèche where they would sleep on mattresses on the floor or to have a babysitter inside the room. Neither option is ideal with young children set in their sleep patterns.
I can’t say I would have made the choices they did (mainly because we’ve never been able to afford that type of holiday, so it’s never even been a risk assessment we’ve made – and obviously hindsight is now coloured by the events on the 3rd) but neither can I fault their reasoning.
One eye-witness report I’ve read (admittedly on a message board and not widely reported in the news, so not a certainty) suggests the McCann’s were also using a baby monitor that night – a system which would have made it superior to many hotels’ baby listening services. Either way, it’s a risk that thousands of parents take every year without incident.
You see, every second of every day as a parent you are making a risk assessment. There is no such thing as risk free, just a balance between benefits and risk.
Sometimes, we cock it up (at least in hindsight). Can any parent lay their hand on their heart and say that they never let go of their toddler’s hand while paying in the supermarket, never looked up while chatting in toddler group to realise you haven’t actually seen your little one for a good ten minutes, never let your older children play out the front with their friends unsupervised, never lost them for a moment in Soft Play because you were talking or reading a book, never stepped outside to remove a spider from your house only to have your toddler lock you out for the next 45 minutes until a locksmith could be found (the last should be a dead give-away that I’m guilty as charged for all of those).
Most times there are no repercussions for our misjudgements. Except when there is. If something had gone wrong on any of those occasions, I would not have been a bad parent, but I would have taken all the blame upon myself. Forever. That’s what parents do, that’s our job.
I’m sure Kate McCann would give everything she owns to turn back the clock and not leave Madeleine that night. That does not make her a bad parent. It makes her a human one. She does not deserve our blame.
The blame belongs solely to Maddie’s abductor.
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1 Karen // 10th May 2007 at 9:23 am
A dream
I have had a dream that might have been about the missing girl, Madelaine McCann. I don’t want to waste police time, but neither can I have it on my conscience if the information in my dream proves to help find her in some way, so I do feel I have to send this letter just in case. Just not sure where to send it? I have been known to have prophetic dreams in the past, so it might be worth looking into.
On the night of 9th May 2007 I dreamed of a girl being taken in the back of a white utility truck. The truck was open at the back and was usually used to carry melons (water-melons?) or something similar. In the dream I saw a box or container, with the little girl inside of it, on the back of the white utility truck. This box or container was attached to the base of the back of the truck I felt. The truck was the kind that has a cabin at the front that can seat two people or so. It had a low, open back, with a drop down flap at the back. The truck was covered in dust, particularly the windscreen, as if it had been travelling in the heat and dust.
I then saw the truck pull up at a house in Spain, in a place called Madeira? There seemed to be a dock or marina area close by too. This was a residential area, and the girl was taken into a house by the man; the driver of the truck. I got the name Serge?
I then saw a woman inside the house, wearing black lace and even a black lace head veil. Almost got the feeling of mourning. In the window of this house is a black and white cat, an adult cat, not really old, but not a kitten either. It roams around the house and outside area, and usually looks out of the side window of the house.
All the curtains in the house are closed, apart from those in the kitchen. The kitchen door is kept closed, to separate it from the rest of the house. The house looks fairl modern outside, although inside it is really old fashioned and everything is worn and tattered, though clean.
Outside the house is a carport, with a wooden structure making up the roof, and support poles holding it up on one side. The car port roof is not a solid roof, it is made up of thin slats of wood that have been stained with a brown colour, and these crisscross, with empty squares between them open to the sky. It looks like something that vines or something similar would be grown across. The other side of the car port roof joins onto the house. The house has a square shaped arial on the roof. There may also be one or two little lizards outside.
The man, who I got the name Serge connected with, seems to be the son of the woman, since she is a lot older than him and they appear to share the same house. The man also has a girlfriend, who visits, who I saw in the dream a dark haired, happy person who knows nothing of what is going on. In the dream, when she visited the man, he talked to her in the kitchen, and did not invite her further into the house.
Inside the house, the woman in the black lace is nursing the child, who is crying a lot and feeling unhappy. In the dream the child was missing her mother, and was being given a bottle with some milk in it, even though she seems as if she could drink from a cup. The bottle was an old fashioned type of bottle, with a light blue line running around the rim and a rubber teat.
The little girl is being kept in a dark bedroom. This bedroom seems to be on the ground floor of the house. There is a plastic or rubber protective sheet on the bed, and a safety gate at the doorway of the bedroom. The bedroom curtains are closed, and they appear to have old fashioned flower print on them…lots of brown and orange type colours, and rounded basic shape flower petals and centres, and very old. The curtains are thin as well, and some light filters through the pale/cream areas on the background of the curtain pattern. The girl spends a lot of time standing at the safety gate crying for things.
I also saw a V shape, but it was as if the V was written around in 3 lines along each side of the V, and the V shape seemed to be inside a square, again drawn with 3 or more parallel lines on each side of the square. It looks like the logo of a car or company logo perhaps.
The girl seems to be wearing old adult T-shirts, with a pair of adult socks that flop around at the ends of her feet and are coloured red. I got the impression there was not any nappies for the little girl, or any children’s clothes for her to wear, so the older woman was making do in looking after her.
That’s all I got, I do hope that it is useful, or if it isn’t, I’m sorry and I hope she is found soon.
Karen
2 wintermute // 10th May 2007 at 10:46 am
This is the first I’ve heard of this; what happened?
3 Pewari // 10th May 2007 at 11:56 am
Karen: I don’t think here’s really the place where anyone relevant to the investigation will see it. As far as I know, they have also impounded the car (not van) implicated as the getaway vehicle. However, I’m sure a hunt around will dig out some contact details that you could anonymously email to?
wintermute: little girl (who will be 4 this Saturday) was snatched from her room shared with two siblings while her parents were having dinner around 200yds away and checking them every half hour. This was at a holiday complex in Portugal.
4 sylvia // 10th May 2007 at 7:22 pm
I’ve been completely avoiding message boards discussing this as the “blame the victim” mentality has been making the bile rise in my throat. I understand that it’s a way of feeling safer, “this could never happen to me” but I can’t cope.
You know, who the fuck expects someone to break in and steal your child. You can’t protect against that. And if they’d been at home, would they be expected to sit in the room with the toddler to make sure that she couldn’t be abducted?
I am so pissed off at the people judging and making stupid moral “they are to blame, they neglected their child” posts that I can’t even write about it.
I’m glad you did.
5 donna // 10th May 2007 at 7:39 pm
as always “hindsight is a wonderful thing”
There is only one ever person to blame “the perpatrator”
please this this poor family rest and let Madelaine be found safe and well x
6 Kat // 11th May 2007 at 1:56 am
This was not a simple matter of brushing away a cobweb on your front step, or letting go of a hand to retrieve your car keys. This was a matter of leaving three small, wee, children alone in a room on a resort in a foreign country. I think there is more than a small difference here.
Every report I have read has noted the parents checked back on the children every half hour. Funny though, not one report picked up on the fact that the last check was at nine o’clock before she was later discovered missing at ten. That seems to me to be more like an hour.
They were with three other couples. If they wanted to dine out with – as I’ve read while cringing – ‘the hassle of young children’ why not rotate nights out whilst one couple looks after all the kids? Better yet, why not leave the children with the babysitting service – included in your cost of vacation – while you dine out. Because of disruption in child sleep patterns?
No, better to leave them to their own devices. Three little pumpkins, alone in a room. The list of possible scenarios arising from that situation alone should be enough to make any parent think twice. Fingers in light sockets, wandering off, playing and rough-housing and a bump and a nasty bleed, inadvertantly starting a fire, playing with the hair dryer near the toilet and retrieving it…. the mind reels.
She was not in bed in her home. She was not in bed at her grandmothers. She was not being cared for by a qualified caregiver. She was not lured into an abductor’s vehicle as she walked home from school. She was ALONE. Alone with two younger siblings.
I am aghast that anyone in their right mind would leave three small children unattended, never mind in a foreign country. And, no, they did not have a baby monitor with them. Even if they did they were far too far away from the children even if it was only 30 yards. A baby monitor may or may not have alerted them to an intruder and is no substitute for an adult looking after the children.
The McCanns should not have to be suffering this nightmare. What concerns me more, however, than the emotional pain of these people is the anguish and possible physical and emotional agony that young Maddy has been going through. SHE is who is truly important here. And she would be well and safe had her thoughtless and selfish parents done the correct thing in either staying with their children or arranging appropriate child care.
I think those who offer the greatest sympathy for the parents and who are quick to lambaste those who are rightly critical of their actions are the ones moreso coerced by ‘there but for the grace of God’. It is Maddy who is of greatest concern. I couldn’t give a flying fig about her parents and they absolutely should be charged with putting her in harms way.
Yes. I am a parent. No, I have never, not even once, left my child alone at a distance so that I could do something I enjoy. Like dinner out. It would be irresponsible for me to do so.
7 Kate - Edinburgh // 11th May 2007 at 5:13 pm
Surely to god at this time THE most important thing right now is finding this wee girl, safe, unharmed and back with her mummy and daddy who utterly adore her.
8 Paula // 11th May 2007 at 8:38 pm
If this alerts parents to be more aware of risks on holiday then good, and for that reason I have to agree in part with what Kat said.
My worry would not have first been abduction though but fire or a child waking from a nightmare, the restaurant was some distance away after all. And while it might seem bad taste to critise the parents I am more concerned with that little girl and what she is going through. I do think it somewhat ironic that if the parents were not professionals or that it was a single parent or anyone from a less middle-class background the criticism would be a lot louder.
And think on this – Ben Needham’s mum has been going through this for 16 YEARS! Imagine the torture continuing for 16 years of not knowing. I watched an interview with her and was heart sorry for her.
Every day children around the world disappear into this vacuum of trafficking. No one is there to hold services for them, it is shocking that it seems too easy and maybe the profile of this case could see some stricter international laws.
9 Limber // 12th May 2007 at 4:13 am
Who considers the possibility of their child being abducted from their room while on holiday? I do for one! On a recent trip to Tasmania with my toddler we were in a three bedroom house and the cot had been set up in a room at the back of the house and our room set up at the front and I MOVED the cot to the room next to us so that we would hear if anything was happening in the night. There are nutters out there. Child abductions don’t happen often, but they do happen. Parenthood is about being paranoid about your child’s safety. I feel for the parents who have to live with their choice that night, but I massively feel more for Maddy who is paying the price. I think the parents are bloody lucky they didn’t have their 2 other children taken with Maddy. The person who stole her is evil incarnate, don’t get me wrong, but to say the parents only did what all parents do is dead wrong.
10 Mia // 12th May 2007 at 9:50 am
When I was 3 years old, my parents, my (much older) sisters and I went on holiday to Ibiza (long before it became party central!). I would dine with my parents, and when I became tired, my parents gave me the key to our apartment, 5 mins walk away, and I would wander back and put myself to bed. They’d come and check on me once about half an hour or so later, to make sure I got there!
Different times, I suppose you could say, although the actual risk of abduction is no higher now than it was then. The level – and tone – of media coverage IS very different now however. We are made to think these things happen every day; they don’t.
It is never going to be possible to protect every child from harm. I’m sorry, but it’s the truth. If someone was determined enough – and we have to assume that this was a carefully planned and executed abduction because you don’t just stumble upon an unsupervised child in a locked room with the shutters down – who’s to say that they couldn’t have overpowered any adult sat with the children anyway? I’m not condoning my parent’s actions back in the 70s, but blaming the parents because they were a few arbitrary yards further away from their children than some individuals might consider reasonable, draws attention away from the fact that what happened was horrific, scary, quite possibly unavoidable and, thankfully, very very rare indeed.
Blame is such an easy, and so often futile, game to play and I suspect no one is playing it more intensely than Gerry & Kate McCann right now.
11 Jane // 12th May 2007 at 3:36 pm
If the government did not allow paedophiles out of the country and confiscated their passports then they wouldn’t be free to commit these crimes.
They should be tagged inside Britain and strictly monitored. What’s more the justice system is too lenient and give longer sentences. As far as I am concerned they need to bring back capital punishment for these crimes.
I believe it is about time that families in this country took a stand to bring back family values and protect our children. Years ago we didn’t suffer the sort of fears we have today when we cannot leave our children for a minute.
We should all march to Downing Street with a petition not to allow paedophiles such freedom and harsher sentences.
12 fonz // 12th May 2007 at 4:23 pm
Well, well! With parents as emotionally devoid as the empty-headed Kat and Limber it’s no wonder so many kids grow-up to be junkies and wasters.
“I couldn’t give a flying fig about her parents and they absolutely should be charged with putting her in harms way” says Kat, what a disgrace you are I hope you are ashamed…but suspect not.
“I think the parents are bloody lucky they didn’t have their 2 other children taken with Maddy” says Limber the callous bastard. You are also a disgrace, you should hang your head… but again, somebody as ignorant as you… I suspect not.
Two self-righteous people who’s kids, I hope, are much too sensible to listen to the crap they spout, as are the rest of us.
Go back to your tabloid newspapers and keep your idiot traps shut!
13 sylvia // 12th May 2007 at 5:10 pm
“It is never going to be possible to protect every child from harm. I’m sorry, but it’s the truth.”
Well put. I wonder if those people protecting their child from the minute risk of abduction are also protecting their child from the very real and much more common risk of abuse from family, friends and relatives. Those trusted folks, you know, that perpetrate the great majority of crimes against children.
If you are taking no risks, I assume you are taking REAL risks into accounts and not just the one-in-a-million chances that are easy to point fingers at…
14 Alley Katt // 12th May 2007 at 7:16 pm
You know, I can see all points here. But my views are mine alone for my kids. I personally would not have gone that distance “IF” I was going to go out for dinner and feel comfortable about leaving my kids there. After all, they could see the front door from where they were sitting. Who would expect some-one to go in through the window? It was a 5 star hotel wasn’t it? What happened to the security cameras?
We have never gone away before due to the fact that we would never go abroad whilst our children were so young. Other people do, and there has not been a problem for them. Now, we just can’t afford it, and they are old enough for us to take them to dinner too.
Obviously the McCaans felt that they could leave their kids and go and check on them regularly. It would not have made any difference whatsoever. They went in through the back window. Nothing would have been heard in the front room would it? Would people then complain that they hadn’t had the kids in the same room as them.
I can see the relief on their faces too .. whew at least we have our other too!
WE ARE HUMANS – NOT PACK ANIMALS!!!!! Losing one child is like losing a leg, an arm, a kidney. It is an integral part of your life – something you need to live. Yes, maybe you do have the other two – but how does that help? Your life is that much shorter.
The other question is – will there be a ransom letter???
15 Limber // 12th May 2007 at 9:43 pm
Hi Fonz,
When I said the parents were bloody lucky the other two children weren’t also taken I was serious. I only meant that the disgusting creature who took Maddy was right there with their other two younger children and could easily have chloroformed them and taken them away too, assuming a drug was used. I can only imagine the horror of having a child taken, but they are mildly lucky in this situation to still have 2 of their children, who were in the same situation, to hold safe while they go out of their minds over the third.
I don’t know why you think my being a cautious parent, like MANY OF US ARE, makes me a bad parent. As for being callous, the only reason I feel strongly about the parent’s behaviour is because 1/ they shouldn’t have both left her, and 2/ I feel so devastated for Maddy who is facing who knows what and was let down by the people she most trusted in the world. I’d feel the same way if a child was injured because their parents didn’t bother to strap them into a car seat for a short trip or if they drowned because the parent thought the child would be ok in the water while they got the phone. You don’t leave your young kids alone. It’s basic isn’t it? What hell is Maddy going through? I think some of you only support the parent’s neglect because you practice the same kind of hit or miss parenting yourself. Learn a lesson and watch your kids. I’m certain Maddy’s parents will in future.
Oh, and yes of course I try to guard my child against the everyday dangers as well as the less predictable ones. Stupid question.
Maybe they will find her safe today. Today would be good.
Lets also take a minute to remember all the other children being taken from their parents through acts of violence in Iraq and throughout the world. Also the children dying daily of starvation in Africa and around the world as their parents are made to watch. They each deserve our compassion and care too.
Regards,
Limber
16 Limber // 12th May 2007 at 9:47 pm
Oh and Alley, are you honestly saying that having one child taken is exactly the same as having all three children taken? Three children to lose your minds over? I’m not minimising Maddy being taken, I’m finding something to be thankful for in this horrendous situation.
17 Limber // 12th May 2007 at 9:51 pm
Last thing……Maddy was likely targeted directly *because* her parents had a pattern of leaving her unattended in the evening.
18 Christine // 12th May 2007 at 11:51 pm
You are right that Mark Warner holidays should take some of the blame.
They advertise themselves as being Family Friendly yet in fact they are the opposite – parents are encouraged to leave their children in childcare all day while they sail and play tennis. At night they are positively discouraged from taking their children with them to dinner – so most parents leave their children on the baby listening service – where the nannies go round every 20 mins listening at the door – others decide they would rather do their own listening and go back to check themselves. The firm does offer baby sitting, but its not always available as everyone wants it!
I know this because I have been on several Mark Warner holidays – we took our baby to dinner asleep in her pram and not one fellow holidaymaker would sit next to us – we felt like total outcasts. They may not have had any choice as to where and when to have dinner as these holidays are ‘inclusive’.
The parents will never forgive themselves for the decision they made – but they should not be victimised as probably 80% of the other parents on that site that night made exactly the same decision.
19 Valb // 13th May 2007 at 12:49 am
Limber, Kat:- we had a local case last year where a 5 year old girl was snatched from her own home whilst she was getting ready to have a bath. She was taken in a car, raped and dumped naked in the street half an hour later. Would you say the parents were at fault in that case because they hadn’t locked the back door? Because they had left the child in a different room for less than a minute while they went to fetch a towel? (and no, she wasn’t actually in the bath) Where do you draw the line at culpability?
OK, I personally wouldn’t have left my kids alone in the room like that, but the point is, this could have happened even while the parents were there. I don’t care how good a parent you are, no-one can keep their eyes on their child 24 hours a day – it’s impossible. The finger of blame in this case should be firmly pointing at the evil bastard who stole Maddie, not her parents. I’m sure that nothing any of us can say will make them feel any worse than they already do – they will have to live with this for the rest of their lives (whether she is returned or not).
20 Limber // 13th May 2007 at 4:29 am
Hi Valb,
I think we have pretty much the same opinions in regard to child safety. In the case of the girl in the bath of course the parents did absolutely nothing to put her in the way of harm and have nothing to reproach themselves with. I too, like you, would not have left my child in a hotel room unattended as Maddy’s parents did. I just think they made it easier for their daughter to be taken by crossing the line between good healthy parenting and selfish parenting, especially in that they did it more than once and so could have been observed or sold out by a hotel employee. If, as you say, it’s a line you wouldn’t cross yourself, then where is our point of disagreement?
Also I’m saying any of us can keep our children 100% safe but I’m talking about at least *trying* to keep them safe. Honestly, how many mothers do you personally know who would have closed that door and gone out to dinner – no matter how close the venue was? I don’t think it would be more than 1 in 10, if that.
Who knows, maybe it’s a cultural difference. I’m in Australia afterall.
My sympathies are still soundly with Maddy.
Limber
21 Kat // 13th May 2007 at 5:39 am
Heeeeeyyyyyy, it’s da Fonz in da house!
Sheesh.
I totally agree with Limber. I think thou doth protest too much. Those rushing to the defense of these people are most likely the ones with the ‘there but for the grace of God’ attitudes. If you think it is perfectly okay for parents to leave their children unattended – at a distance quite obviously greater than 30 yards, or is it 50? – or is it actually 100 or more? Find a photo and judge for yourself. – then it is your children I fear for.
I am a diligent, attentive mother who does not take even small unnessecary risks with my child.
Valb – there isn’t even a slight resemblance to the case you speak of and this one. Leaving for one *minute* to fetch a towel – while in the same premises as your child – is a far cry from leaving your three TODDLERS all alone in a room while you are out enjoying a nice dinner with friends with those kids out of eye and ear shot. My heart bleeds for the little girl you speak of AND for her parents.
These people put their children in harm’s way. Had been doing so every night of their vacation. They were negligent, plain and simple. They may not have directly handed Maddy over to the kidnapper, but they may as well have. That little girl – if she is still living at this point – has been experiencing unimaginable horrors.
Where I differ from those who readily defend the parents is that my first concern is for the child. Those who should be ashamed are A: her parents, B; anyone else who leaves their children in precarious postitions and C: low life name calling monosyllabic neandrethals who accuse people of being bad parents because said bad parents have expressed outrage that anyone could be so negligent with small children. As charming as you are, Fonz it breaks my heart to disagree with you and I would be happy to point you in the direction of real statistics, not mere rhetoric, which would indicate that it is thoughtless, uninvolved and detached parents who have children who are apt to become – as you so delicately put it – junkies and wasters.
And, yes, Sylvia, I don’t just worry and concern myself with the proverbial boogie men out there. I am more than well aware that the majority of child abuse is perpetuated by someone close to the child.
Have you not seen the arial shots of the resort – you know, the ones pointing out the entrance to the apartment, the tapas bar and the great distance and lack of view between the two? If not I would recommend you do a little more research into the matter.
At the same time I would recommend checking out child welfare laws throughout the world. I believe that in most developed nations leaving your children unattended, as the McCanns did, is considered a criminal offence.
I don’t, for a second, believe they thought this fate would befall one of their children. I do, fully and completely, believe they are guilty of neglect, or endangerment, or both. And while I would never wish the agony of losing a child on any person, I will not for a moment waste one iota of energy feeling badly for *them*. It is Maddy my heart goes to.
22 Limber // 13th May 2007 at 9:33 am
Hi Christine,
I agree that Mark Warner holidays don’t sound Family Friendly at all. Seems like they were an incident/tragedy waiting to happen. What if there was a fire??
That said, parents aren’t lemmings. One parent could have stayed with the kids while the other socialised with friends and the next night vice versa. That would have been the responsible thing to do in the situation, or one went out for the early part of the evening, the other the later part. Letting snotty fellow diners dictate your level of care for your children is childish and dangerous.
Does the advertising for these packages make it clear that parents and children will be effectively separated most of the time?
Lets boycott any holiday packages that have this dangerous set-up.
Regards,
Limber
23 Luis // 13th May 2007 at 4:05 pm
Dear Karen,
Can you draw a picture of that V logo and send it back to my e-mail? king_leer@sapo.pt
Cheers
Luis – Porto,Portugal
24 Karen // 13th May 2007 at 4:30 pm
Good post, Pewari; gave me a shiver.
To those commenters who blame the parents: do you really think they deserved what they got? Blame is irrelevant.
25 Alley Katt // 13th May 2007 at 4:51 pm
Apologies Limber, I took the wrong end of the stick.
Pewari, you certainly know how to fire up a conversation.
The only problem is, it is for the wrong reasons – not that I am having a go, don’t think that at all. It is just that it is a difficult subject that is in the hearts of everyone especially those who have children themselves.
I just hope that it ends well, and soon. And some people wonder why I am agnostic.
Luis – let us know what you find and if it is helpful
26 Luis // 13th May 2007 at 5:02 pm
I’ll try but i need something more, like a draft, is it possible?
thanks
27 Laura // 13th May 2007 at 6:32 pm
The whole idea of the ‘nannies service’ places offer doesn’t sound safe enough to me. ‘Listening at their doors’ There should be some kind of way to LOOK inside, you cannot hear them breathing through a door so how do you know they are safe?
On holiday, in certain places at least, it is a lot safer than say in a city, to leave your child alone for a while. I’m sure that because the hotel is very popular, and they could see the front entrance from where they were sitting they thought it was alright to leave their children in there.
I personally wouldn’t be able to do it though. If I couldn’t take a child out with me to dinner while on holiday, I wouldn’t go to that place to begin with. It’s a bit silly of the place they went to really, they should have more ‘child friendly’ zones.
I think it’s terribly strange that they only took the one girl, sounds like maybe they had been followed during their holiday and the little girl alone was targetted? Very strange.
I really hope they find that little girl soon.
28 existencias // 13th May 2007 at 9:44 pm
I dont blame the parents but all of us! Because we are creating a society without any trust!
I think someting should be done, such as increasing the reward or distribute photos form all over the world! ithing we can make the diference and why not starting now?
Maddie need us because we dont know what kind of abuses she are suffering right now!
29 Kat // 13th May 2007 at 11:19 pm
Karen
May 13th, 2007 16:30
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Good post, Pewari; gave me a shiver.
To those commenters who blame the parents: do you really think they deserved what they got? Blame is irrelevant.
I have never said that they ‘deserved what they got’. I have repeatedly said that I would wish this on no parent, not even them.
My entire point is that Maddy does not deserve what she has gotten or is presently getting and would not have been victimized if her parents had done their duty and not left their children unattended. I find it reprehensible that they left their children alone. I don’t care what they could see from where they sat. They could not see enough, they could not see through walls to know whether or not a child or all had woken and were perhaps getting into mischief or worse, harm. They absolutely should be charged with child endangerment and, God forbid, if Maddy should die manslaughter or being culpable for her death.
I cannot repeat it often enough… That child would be safe and well had her parents kept watch over their children.
30 Cathy // 13th May 2007 at 11:53 pm
Please could Karen contact someone from the Mccann family/ Leic police/ whatever and/or http://www.briansprediction.com/dd/5441.htm and if that doesn’t work then just brians prediction. com – your two dreams seem to link up and I think someone somewhere should look at them, esp ref the V. ta.
31 Anna // 14th May 2007 at 5:36 pm
I’m very skeptical whether an overweight black girl from a working class background would get nearly the same amount of round-the-clock-coverage/sympathy/treatment/cash rewards.thousands of people including children go missing each year,why this constant Big Brother style up-to-the-minute coverage focus for this one child? Don’t get me wrong i genuinely wish her well,and feel for her parents but the massive media coverage is if anything making me more unsympathetic.if you cant get where im coming from,see this link
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Missing_white_woman_syndrome
32 Jane // 14th May 2007 at 6:50 pm
Regarding Anna’s comments, sounds like typical “chip on the shoulder” syndrome.
The McCanns haven’t hidden themselves behind closed doors for the right reasons. The husband is strong and is taken control whilst other husbands in other cases have folded up and weren’t able to take the pressure.
They have so much more to go through before it gets worse. Thank goodness they have people behind them and they are keeping up this high profile media. Maybe that will just save Madelaine – who knows.
As usual the criticism starts. Nobody has the right to criticise. They have a strong family who are doing all the right things – more than the police were able to do.
33 Sarah // 16th May 2007 at 1:43 am
TO KAREN WHO HAD THE DREAM:
Please look at the logo for Best Western Hotels. Was that the V you are describing in your dream? Please let me know.
34 Sarah // 16th May 2007 at 7:12 am
Karen,
Please can you look at the logo for the best western hotel and see if this is the V you mention in your dream?
I posted this same message a few hours ago and it isn’t apperaing here, I don’t know why that would be.
Thank you.
35 Pewari // 16th May 2007 at 7:24 am
“I posted this same message a few hours ago and it isn’t apperaing here, I don’t know why that would be.”
Sarah: the why is very simple. I operate a comment moderation system here for new commenters and given that you sent the comment at 2am UK time, I was asleep at the time!
If you want Karen to contact you, it would also help if your email address didn’t bounce.
36 Luis // 16th May 2007 at 8:15 am
Hi all,
I’ve also asked Karen to draw a draft of that symbol and i’d no contact.
I’ll leave my e-mail again.
king_leer@sapo.pt
Cheer, Luis, Portugal.
P.s I saw a tv-show last Monday and a Portuguese journalist that was in the UK during last week descrive that the Portuguese issue is being overrated. I think and i agree that we have severall thinsg to improve around here but we are not like some of the majority of the press told about us. Our countru still is the more secure in Europe and our police in one of the best handling Pedhofilia. Look at Madeira’s issue in 1998. This is just a comment, ’cause I love the Uk, since i’m a music fan and i’l go there several times and i didn’t like what i’ve heard. It’s time to put some feedback around there and correct what has been done.
Cheers for all of you. Now that suspects are found let’s see but i doubt they are the one. Too easy but let’s hope so!
Luis
37 louise // 16th May 2007 at 3:26 pm
karen u may be on 2 sumfin here that dream sounds convincing u shud let sum1 know this is like robert murat and his mum scarey !!!!!
38 debbie carter // 16th May 2007 at 6:53 pm
I am writing with reply to Karens mail earlier this month re madelaine McCann dream. As the news keeps unfolding her dream seems to be extremely accurate. The latest I heard is their is a person called Sergeh involved with the enquiry, the mother and son connection too. and by the way I just checked out the best western logo and it is indeed like the logo symbol karen is referring to. Karen if you have not already been in touch with either the police or press you really should you seem to have psychic powers and I am sure you could lead them to the perpetrator of this dreadful situation as well as god willing hopefully get her back to her parents.
39 debbie carter // 16th May 2007 at 7:40 pm
I did just take it upon myself to contact both crimestoppers and a leading tabloid the Sun. I mentioned Karens dream and your site and they said that they could not take psychic seriously as they have had hundreds of calls like this they would not pass on to the police and thats that. I do hope that your dream Karen does not turn out accurately and the police do not get to the scene too late. They should listen to your dream. Still like you I did not want this on my conscious so have done the correct thing to be more or less laughed at and told that crimes like this are not solved by psychics, dreams but by good detective work. Well only time will tell if you dream is accurate lets just wait and see. I have done my bit! Pewari please let me know your thoughts and karen too.
40 Phie // 16th May 2007 at 9:23 pm
My sympathy goes to no-one other than Maddie. She is a child who without even realizing it trusts her parents to protect her from this evil world we now live in. It is because her parents love her so much that she belives that nothing bad will ever happen to her, no-one will ever hurt her and when she it hurt Mummy and Daddy will rush to her wrap her in their arms and make the world wonderful again……..
I do sincerly hope that she is safe and well somewhere and that we find her soon. But what has happened to her will mean she will possibly never find that innocent trust and security all our children deserve.
So having written this I will dry my eyes, kiss my daughter and vow to keep my promise to protect her with every fibre of my being.
Maddie YOU are in my prayers. x
41 Pewari // 16th May 2007 at 9:29 pm
“Pewari please let me know your thoughts” – I decided early on in the comment history of this post to break my usual habit of responding to every commenter in the interests of remaining polite and not getting into a heated argument – that’s not what this blog is about.
As for the whole dream discussion and for the benefit of any visiting journalists, I think I can only reiterate my disclaimer at the bottom of this page: “The views expressed in these comments are not the views of the publisher” and that if you do end up with substantial proof of psychic ability that you really ought to contact this guy for the reward.
42 lynn preston lancs // 16th May 2007 at 10:20 pm
I am really freaked out about karens dream and todays news it is too coincidental the suspect is called Sergey please Karen report this dream to someone in authority as I nearly passed out when I heard the news after reading your dream (please for the sake of Madeleine!)
43 Felicity // 16th May 2007 at 10:36 pm
Karen,
I was really shocked on reading your post 6 days ago, and then seeing the name of the latest person to be questioned RE Madeleine. You HAVE to push this to all the papers, it is too uncanny. Did you have any other details, maybe a street name or something, anything that might help?
44 Jag // 17th May 2007 at 6:04 am
I nearly fell out of my bed when I heard the name “Serge” spoken out on on Radio 4 Today programme just now. Either Commenter “Karen” is truly psychic, or it’s an amazing coincidence, or else “Karen” knows something … whatever, it spooked me somewhat. But I really hope the little girl is safe and well.
45 debbie carter somerset // 17th May 2007 at 9:32 am
i did contact the press and crimestoppers. My last attempt to highlight this is to contact The pub in Rothley near the green to tell someone who knows the family that this dream is very accurate or coincidental. If they then choose not to pass this on as they of course have the inside track knowing the family then that is up to them however i think if anyone is going to take it seriously it would be perhaps someone who knows the family. I am waiting on a call back and hopefully they will listen. Another parallel here is it is interesting that a guy on this site named luis who has also been mentioned on the news is asking about the logo shape…. goodness me!
46 Felicity // 17th May 2007 at 11:02 am
Debbie, I’m convinced that Karen has something here. I’ve also emailed the link to all the papers etc. What makes me mad is if nothing is done and it turns out she was right. Her dream was so accurate, especially with the mentioning of the name of Serge.
I’ve also been looking on google world, as you can zoom right in on individual properties, there are about 6 places it came up with, but one is Madeira the island, just off portugal, which has a small town near a port. If there was someone local they might know the house that she described. How on earth can we help this poor little girl?
47 debbie carter somerset // 17th May 2007 at 12:42 pm
Good work Felicity in sending the links to press, The pub in Rothley called me back the landlady (a very nice person) did listen to me and now has the website and document of dream and is going to highlight to family, police etc. So now thank goodness someone is listening and can be influential in making sure this info gets to the right people. Hopefully they can find her and bring her home safely. I think from my discussion with one particular tabloid yesterday they said that the paper has had so many calls like that so you can imagine a lot of psychic wanted to make publicity out of this but karen has put this dream on a website ie this one that is not well known so this is a little different i feel. Still I can as always see everyone point of view but if this little bit of alerting this dream to someone brings about a positive solution that is very important. We are talking about a little life here bless her heart and anything however small that can help find her has to be good. I am a mother of a 3 and half year old boy and cannot imagine life without him or what the McCanns are going through. just to put the record straight on me I am not a psychic or have anything to do with a psychic network. but in th past I have had tarot cards done and sometimes they can be extremely accurate. i am just like most anxious mums who could not believe this story when it broke and just send hope daily for a safe return. Karen are you still on this discussion let me know your thoughts.
48 Felicity // 17th May 2007 at 12:48 pm
That’s great news; I agree that this is very different to those seeking maybe notoriety by trying to get involved. It was the link to the name that really got me. I’ve also been looking at Brianspredictions.com and this guy also had a dream about it, etc, again seems fairly accurate. What is interesting though, is he has seen the suspect, Murat’s picture, and says this is not the man he saw taking Madeleine, which leads me to believe even more that it must be linked to this Sergei guy. I’m trying to find any listings of people named Malinka who live on Madeira itself or maybe a villa with the name Madeira in it but dont’ really know where to start. I, like you, have children, in particular a 2 yo girl and I can’t imagine what they, and Madeleine must be going through. I can’t sleep and I keep crying because what is happening to this family and this little girl is just terrible. Please god speed her home to her parents.
49 debbie carter somerset // 17th May 2007 at 2:01 pm
hi Felicity I just looked at brians prediction and he does mention an address and a place so that is also scarey. something else to follow maybe.
50 Sarah // 18th May 2007 at 1:08 am
I would really like to urge Karen to not be too freaked out by all this and to repost here, as I would love to ask her a few more questions. She seems certain of Spain, but not so certain of Madeira, so I’m wondering if she could mean Madrid instead? It is within easy driving distance of the Algarve. Another psychic has mentioned someone connected with the case working at The Best Western Hotel, and there is one in Madrid. So it would be very intersting if their logo was the V she described.
I know all of this seems like clutching at straws, but I suppose it’s just because everyone is just hoping so much that this little girl comes home and anything that might help, however small, is worth thinking about.
By the way, Debbie, I wouldn’t be too concerned about “Luis” being mentioned on the news as well. In Portugal all male names have to be chosen from a government approved list of about 100, it’s the law (or at least it used to be until very recently) so loads of them share similar names! I wouldn’t want to discourage Luis, the person posting here, from coming back with anything he knows. By the way, that’s brilliant news about you trying to get the details of this dream to the family. Well done for your effort.
By the way, these are other sites that may be of interest:
http://www.everetthealthcare.com/maddy-mccann.htm
-This is a famous psychic who has drawn pictures of people who she sees as the culprits.
http://www.psychicguild.com/forum/lofiversion/index.php/t2198.html
-Another person’s dream about Madeleine’s disappearance
http://chatroom.gm.tv/forums/showthread.php?t=477&page=30&p=5143
-Scroll down for the posting by Stuart Higman
http://www.newsmonster.co.uk/content/view/183/72/
-A report on the police increasingly using psychics in investigations
Doesn’t it just make you realise how absolutely precious our children are?
Sarah.
51 S Webb // 18th May 2007 at 3:44 am
Why didn’t the police consider Karen to have ‘too much information’. She hasn’t posted since. Does anyone else think that’s too weird?
Maybe I’ve been watching too much Law & Order.
Goomba
52 louise // 18th May 2007 at 7:54 am
why hasnt karen been back on here? she seems to know alot i think the police should be informed this is to coincidental.
53 Limber // 18th May 2007 at 8:17 am
Hi Louise, All,
The whole thing about psychic ability is that it can show real events. Back in 1984 I wrote in my diary that I had a dream in which Princess Diana was badly injured in a “possibly deliberate car crash” those were my exact words more than a decade before her death (she didn’t actually die in the crash so as I only saw the crash I didn’t know her outcome was death, though I knew the man with her died. Back then I assumed he was Charles). I can assure you I was not a party to any conspiracy to kill Diana, I just had a psychic dream like Karen seems to have had.
I expect Karen has not returned to this site because her first response here was advice to go to a bigger site more likely to be read by more people.
Still waiting for Madeleine to be found. Always the first thing I scan the paper for in the morning.
Regards,
Limber
54 debbie carter somerset // 18th May 2007 at 9:34 am
brians prediction is interesting as he mentions vilamoura which is a place I have been to in the past and is set on a marina one neighbouring village is Falesia, not sure without viewing a map which town/village is on the other side of Vilamoura. the fact brian talks about vilamoura and karen talks about a marina could this also be coincidental. Brian does give an address as well so maybe this could help.
55 louise // 18th May 2007 at 10:20 am
thnx limber well this all seems freaky im not quit understanding it i read karens post a dream on 16th so im not sure about it being their b4 all this came out which i do believe it was. this is really weard i believe she does apear to be phsychic from wat ive read why isnt this getting taken further she knows details about people involved before they are being released in the news she has useful information that should be goin further to help find this poor wee girl i hope she goes forward and gets this over to sum1 and this can be looked into.
56 louise // 18th May 2007 at 10:46 am
any1 getting anywhere on this ?
57 louise // 18th May 2007 at 1:03 pm
any news on people in rothley debbie ?
58 debbie carter somerset // 18th May 2007 at 2:57 pm
hi Louise,
The lady in Rothley did say she would keep me posted, but I said that was not necessary. she did take me seriously so I can only assume she has actioned it.
59 susan // 18th May 2007 at 5:13 pm
I joined in with the reiki circle yesterday. (thursday) For over 5 hours I sent reiki to Madeline hoping and praying that she would be found safe and well today.(Friday 18th May)
Sadly, no news.
On sending Madeline Reiki – I tried to ask her where she was or what she could see.
She gave me the impression that she was on a boat. I could feel the sea ‘bobbing’ under my hands. She was looking up at me and appeared to be in a box like structure (NOT a coffin) there is nothing in it with her and she was crying and saying, “I want to go home” over and over. As heartbreaking as this sounds, it gave me peace of mind that she is still alive.
I tried to move away from this vision I had but it remained firm and fixed to the point where I felt sea-sick.
If anyone in Portugal (I live in Asia) has a mind to search anywhere and has access to a boat – please search. I feel the plans which were first put in to place to kidnap Madeline have gone wrong. The child’s eyes will create fear in the kidnapper as it is something he can never change.
I hope the family gets peace in their lives soon, God knows there are enough of us out there willing whoever took Madeline to return her to a safe place.
Blessings to all.
Susan
60 Becky // 18th May 2007 at 5:19 pm
Hi, have just found this site, have been checking Briansdreams every day, can’t believe the police etc won’t take these people seriously. Brian has an address, why can’t they just check it out, it can’t harm anything surely. HOW CAN WE MAKE THEM LISTEN……..
Becky.
61 Pewari // 18th May 2007 at 5:27 pm
I found a few comments that for some reason had hit my spam trap and weren’t showing in my moderation queue – sorry about that. Should all be displaying now.
62 Becky // 18th May 2007 at 6:23 pm
Debbie,
When you spoke to the people at the pub in Rothley, did you tell them about Brians RV’s too? Thought as he had an address, they could try and get the police to check it out???
63 louise // 18th May 2007 at 7:02 pm
thanx debbie
i dont know whats gona happen next with the hunt for maddy its all going 2 slow i hope they find her safe and well .
64 jacqui // 18th May 2007 at 7:39 pm
I also cannot believe they are not chasing brians dream had a gate at the resort with 272 above it up……..anything and everything is worth a try surely.
She has those amazing crystal eyes, and they were not anticipated…..cannot be changed and make her so recognisible…..bless her heart.
Say a prayer for her, light a candle for her,send all the healing you can to her.She is hearing us.
65 louise // 18th May 2007 at 7:43 pm
IM GETTING REALLY FRUSTRATED!!!!
karen where r u ? why arent u coming on and informing people what u dreamt of? does any1 actually realise this woman had a dream and typed it up on here about a week b4 the news was reported in the papers, tv etc she has had everything right so far the name serge this is impossible for any1 to predict by guessing this should be getting taken seriously this woman knows what has happend or very near enough to produce what she has wrote and when and.u have all read it and know when read it thats how every1 is freaked out well me anyway! its totally useful and worth the polices time karen u should help this family u shud not hold back it looks to me everything in wat ur dream told u was very accurate or at least on the right lines
thanx any1 want to add to this ?
66 vikki // 18th May 2007 at 7:59 pm
please if any if the mccann family reading this or people who can get mess to them please please go onto http://www.brianspredictions.com i know that u are prob getting loads of these but alls i ask is that you read it and then make ur mind from there. it cant hurt just to read what he says about maddie-who know it might just find ur sweet little girl xxx
67 Vanessa // 18th May 2007 at 8:02 pm
Look I know this sounds absurd but I have been following this in Spain and doing all I can to help raise awareness so that she does not slip from the prime time news. I came across a site and I really do believe this guy has something in what he sees. I know it is easy to dismiss things as being crank etc but I truly believe he is not. I have followed his visions and here are the conclusions I have come to, you can judge as you wish.
The link to his site is here:
http://www.briansprediction.com/dd/5441.htm
Please read his RV’s I believe they may hold information that we have not even considered. I have followed them and this is what I have come up with, I pray that it is correct and she will be found.
When you have checked the above link check out these pics…surely someone other than myself can see there is some connection. I am shouting this from the rooftops and no one is hearing me :-((
I believe that Madeline is in a nearby resort which is more or less over the road from the resort that she was taken from. Their tennis courts are only separated by a road and I would imagine that both tennis courts would be visible from and apartment at the Estrela da Luz resort. The sketch in the RV so much resembles this complex even down to the zig zag railings on the balcony.
http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e36/troglodyfae/estrellaapartments.jpg
http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e36/troglodyfae/edl_location_map_b.jpg
I have other pics that I have collected today whilst trying to get some more feeling on this, I have some abilities but I have stayed away from them accept when a child goes missing. I am a mother and grandmother so this affects me and possibly makes my senses more acute.
I would be grateful of any comments people can make. I am so sure this is not a wind up, just not sure what to do with the info other than I have already done
Regards to all and Madeline continues to be in my thoughts
68 Felicity // 18th May 2007 at 8:07 pm
I understand your frustration louise, we have done as much as we can; contacting all the papers news channels and debbie has contacted the local pub which said they would tell the family. Karen did not specify what Madeira related to; i google world’d it and it could be a few places, not just madeira the island. if you have google world, type in madeira and you’ll see it comes up with at least 7 different areas, not to mention the island Madeira, which I’m guessing has a pretty big population. Brian’s dream does not give us an actual address either, just some house numbers and a road but since i’m not familiar with portuguese road numbers or who to look them up (and it may not even be portugal) I just don’t know what else there is we can do. We have to trust that the pub will pass the info on to the family who can pressure the police into looking into it. My love is with you Madeleine, stay strong little one x
69 susan // 19th May 2007 at 3:26 am
The Child is on a boat!
The man in the sky pictures with the stubble and the glasses who is married to the “german” woman who is a friend of RM.
RM is minor in this.suspicion about a car.
The man with the stubble is connected and there is someone in authority connected (police/gov)
everything they plannned to do has gone wrong – she is on a boat!
in Karens dream she has a four year old wearing nappies!
Keep your minds open.
Don’t do what the portugal police have done and pick one thing to focus on.
If there is anyone in Portugal reading this.
I have it from myself and another relative, who , like me is psychic to LOOK ON THE BOATS.
The people who took her are panicked. They didnt expect all this publicity.
The child’s eyes will be her downfall – as she is so easy to recognise.
SEARCH THE BOATS!
Blessings to all.
70 louise // 19th May 2007 at 11:03 am
hi susan
u say in karena dream she has a 4 yr old wearing napies! yeah i thot that was a bit strange as 4yr olds wud not wear nappies but however a dream ia a dream u dream things that are made up people who arent who u dream they are or look like and all sorts this is maybe just confusion and what happens in a dream not everything makes sense .but she def is onto sumthing who in a million years would pick out the name serge to be involved and this arises on news about a wk later i believe that their is more to this than just a made up story.
71 louise // 19th May 2007 at 11:12 am
i think their is to many things geting said here (to many cooks spoil the broth) heard that saying thats the equivelent to this im just focusing on karens dream not brians or susan saying she is on a boat just going way off lines here karen has clues here im sticking to this thanx
72 becky // 19th May 2007 at 12:42 pm
Hi,
msg for Vanessa, What feelings do you have about little Maddie? Brian thinks she is till on the island, maybe the sigting in Morocco is something to take attentions away from portugal??? God, I wish they could find her….
73 susan // 19th May 2007 at 2:18 pm
Hi everyone,
Louise, of course you can stick with Karen’s dream.I’m not asking you not to. Dreams are made up of symbols numbers language names and pictures/photo’s – trying to decipher everything in a dream – especially abstract and seemingly random is always difficult.
Brian says she is still on the island.
Like everyone else, I would love for one of you or anyone to find this child before it is too late.
Maybe I can explain my ‘sights’ of why I belive she is on a boat.
I dont know the exact time line or who has been investigated in detail. (I live in Asia)
From what I understand of the situation.
Madelines parents went out for a meal – came back and their precious daughter was missing.
A shuttered window had been forced (anyone feel free to correct any of this).
Madeline was missing.
French doors were open.
A blonde haired woman in her 50′s was seen in the vicinity by a neighbour at around the time Madeline went missing.
Three people were seen at a petrol station with a child.
A search was made by people from the hotel (including the parents) and police were called in. Then, due to their secrecy laws …..nothing.
My daughter phoned me from the UK on the evening that Madeline went missing and asked me to tune into this child.
I did. I do not have any website and all the ‘readings’ I have done for people in my life have been free.
Being psychic since birth is more of a burden than a gift, I can assure you. As a child I thought everyone could do what I did – once I found out they couldn’t I started keeping my mouth shut.
I tuned into Madeline the first night and got this.
A child sleeping in a big bed with her brother and sister.
Someone in the room. I didn’t get the impression that he came through the window. He left with her through the french doors.
She was wrapped in a beige blanket which was on the top of the sheets. She was passed on to someone else near the supermarket. She was driven to a safe house in a white car.
She was kept there for a few days, then moved to another safe house.
Everytime I have tried to clear my thoughts as to her whereabouts I keep seeing her in a box like structure and she is looking up at me. It has driven me crazy trying to put sense to it – I know better than to focus on one thing but the image will not go away.
On seeing the rough shaven man on the sky website – he sprang off the page (just as the caretaker did in the Soham murders (whom i correctly identified as the girls’ killer days before the police did)- of which i knew nothing about until i went to the uk for a visit and picked up a free newspaper at Heathrow.
I think the rough shaven man (he is married to the woman having an affair with Robert) is connected with the disappearance of Madelines and I stand by what i said that someone in authority is also involved either a policeman or someone in gov. authority and is hiding behind their secrecy laws.
What should have been a ‘simple’ kidnapping has gone horribly wrong. They never expected this much publicity. Madeline was moved to a boat. When I Reikied this child I asked her where she was – she didn’t know. She kept saying “I want to go home” and was very distressed. I asked her to calm down and show me what she could see. The water bobbing under my hands was constant to the point where I felt sea-sick. After Reikiing this child for hours it never shifted.
She has been moved at least twice on land and is, I belive now on water, in a confined space looking up.One of the reasons she was moved from the first house is because she has a very loud scream.
If anyone out there knows how to do distant reiki healings – they will know what i mean.
It’s like remote viewing but you can fine tune your thoughts on the person you are doing the reiki on.
I belive the abductors of this child are now in a panic. The mark in her eye cannot be removed like a hair dye or clothing.
The person who has her is waiting for instructions but they are afraid to use mobile phones as the police are on to that.
She spends a lot of time sleeping. I hope that God is listening and sends in people to rescue this child before it is too late.
If Karen is correct with her dream they will find her there. If Brian is correct, they will find her around the corner overlooking the tennis courts.
If i am correct,and i pray that i am not. Time is not on her side and they will not find this child in time.
I hope and pray that she is found before her time runs out.
On further ‘tunings’this boat is a white wooden boat. It is not new. Like a small fishing boat with a polished wooden steering wheel which is very warn. There are faded markings in blue along the side of the boat.
If anyone in Portugal reads this. Please take a look – shout her name MADELINE MCCANN out loud.
On the streets, on the beach and on the sea.
Blessings to all.
74 debbie carter somerset // 19th May 2007 at 6:08 pm
hello one and all I will alert Rothley of the latest on this website and hopefully they can take a look and also at Brians Predictions.
Bless this little girl and bring her home soon please, please.
75 s // 19th May 2007 at 11:54 pm
Hello
hoping someone could help trying to get hold of brian at briansdream but the email will not work for me. I am a remote viewer, have information which is very similar plus additional to brian.really need to get hold of him. Can someone help?
sorry to post here, bit cheeky, but thinking of M.
76 Becky // 20th May 2007 at 8:28 am
Hi,
You need to sign up as a member to get hold of Brian in order for him to reply straight away. I have tried to contact him without being a member and heard nothing. If you sign up as a member, you are able to get his telephone number and personal email address.Really hope you can help little Maddie. Do you think Brian is right that she is till on the complex?
77 zip // 20th May 2007 at 10:15 am
OK this has all got out of hand now.
Pewari did not blog about dreams, predictions, remote viewing or anything else of that ilk, nor is she a messaging service. She has showed great restraint in distancing herself from these comments and I’m not sure I would have shown the same.
This ‘dream’ is not a great prediction. It is so vague any psychic fraud could make it up. She decribes areas and buildings in a way even I could describe them in that area – and I’ve never even been there. I myself was predicting her descriptions before I even read them. And the name Serge? If it wasn’t one of the most common names going maybe I would raise an eyebrow, but come on!
I had a predictive dream once – about 20 years ago. It was startling how every single detail of the dream actually matched an event that occurred the following morning. Was it a predictive dream? Or was it just coincidence? I’ll go for coincidence thank you very much. If it was actually a prediction them I’m bloody annoyed because I’ve dreamt every single night in the 20 years since then and not once I have I sprouted wings, married Brad Pitt or found an elephant in my wardrobe.
The very serious side of all these comments is the fact that all this has been forwarded on to the press, police and the family. What if the family actually get to read all this stuff!! How cruel to offer some clap-trap disguised as hope.
The press have worked people into a frenzy over this tragic event. If anyone wants to help out I suggest they look at ways of offering their time to find the many thousands of children who go missing.
Madeleine will be found using evidence, real evidence. Real evidence can’t lie, suggest or impair an investigation.
78 Vanessa // 20th May 2007 at 10:20 am
Hi I have just posted my full thoughts on this on the forum you can find by following this link. Brian’s latest RV is very interesting and I have commented on the forum as to what I think this might be. I am convinced she is close as Brian said she is, I keep seeing images when I am trying to sleep, images of the pavements, etc and palm trees, not uncommon I know in Portugal. Check out the forum and let me know what you think.
http://forum.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=messageboard.viewThread&EntryID=34730455&categoryID=0&groupID=105980497
79 s // 20th May 2007 at 10:30 am
Thanks for all your help guys!
I did manage to get an email to Brian and he confirmed that he did receive the information, for some reason I felt I had to pass it to him.
Is anyone actually in Luz,Portugal who posts here? I need some help from someone on the ground, but don’t think it is advisable to post on an open forum the information I have. Can anyone help?
I am pretty certain she is still alive, which is great news.
Thanks in advance
80 r // 20th May 2007 at 10:59 am
Vanessa I really think you are onto something with those orange apartments, my daughter and I are following brians rvs and in a recent one he drew the apratment or villa with the peaked roof my daughter said oh its those orange ones with the black windows (shes 9 and has never been to Portugal)
81 louise // 20th May 2007 at 12:15 pm
hiya everyone well i dont know what to think anymore on all the information its a bit much now all i can say is i hope madeleine is found soon, safe and well b4 it gets to late !
82 Phie // 20th May 2007 at 12:26 pm
ZIP….I Thank you.
having posted a message here during the week i’ve watched the whole “dream” spiral out of control. While i would love it if this dream where “real” and was the way to find Madeleine iam also aware how these things must be affecting the parents and the POLICE. My husband is a police sergeant here in the UK and he knows how many calls about dreams come flooding in with a case like this. Add to that the recent news that people are trying to cash in on the reward with fake claims (i saw that one coming and i’m not psysic) and the police are probably running around following leads that go nowhere and are wasting their time instead on working on genuine facts and sightings (the boy who cried wolf is stuck in my head)
Even if this dream was spot on if the police storm in to get the guy with no proof or evidence he would get away scott free due to the polices handling of it. I know it’s not fair but that is the way the law works.
Anyway that is the end of my rant…..
My heart is still with Madeleine and I pray for her safe return but I really don’t think this is the way to go about it.
83 sophia // 20th May 2007 at 1:58 pm
Message to Susan
Hi, I have been corresponding with Brian Ladd, and I have tried “tuning in” to M, as I know many people have. I believe she may be on a boat too, as the last time I did manage to get an image, it was of many small lights far away (like when you look at land from the sea at night). Also I felt very cold, and the feeling took a long time to go away. I am basically a sceptical person, but I would do anything to help find Madeleine, and it has nothing to do with the reward. I am the mother of a 4 year old girl myself, and this whole story is just too awful to contemplate.
Let’s hope they find her, and that the kidnappers don’t panic. My worst fear is that they may throw her overboard if they are at sea with her. It doesn’t bear thinking about.
84 susan // 20th May 2007 at 3:14 pm
Dear Perawi
First of all thank you so much for allowing my postings on your site. I don’t even know how i found your site in the first place!!
From experience, I know that police usually dismiss ‘psychic’ evidence as hocus pocus – and so they should when they have clear evidence. Good policemen (and I have known many in my time) keep an open mind on all avenues and work methodically and intuitively.
My prayers have been with them since the beginning of this nightmare. I am a mother of two and a grandmother of two beautiful granddaughters – both under three years old.
Reward? Like millions of people around the world praying and hoping for this little girl – my reward would be that she is back with her loving family safe and well.
I really don’t care if someone reads dustmites as long as she is found. Like others here and on many sites there is something about this case which has touched us all.
I would like to offer a practical idea if anyone is interested?
CALL HER NAME.LOUDLY.
Raise the roof off Portugal by making a human chain. Let Madeline’s parents know you are looking for her. More importantly, if Madeline IS within earshot, hearing her name may cause her to respond.
Everyone is looking out for her – but no-one is actually calling.
I swear if I was in Portugal, I would have rallied as many people as humanly possible to call this child’s name.On the beachfront, towns, countryside, streets, lanes…….
As mother’s and grandmothers it’s something we do when we want our children to hear us.
Sophia
I truly hope me we are 100% wrong.
Blessings to all.
Thankyou Pewari for allowing our voices. x.
85 susan // 20th May 2007 at 3:16 pm
apologies for misspelling your name.
86 sophia // 20th May 2007 at 4:59 pm
Yes Pewari, Thank you indeed for hosting a venue where people can discuss this openly. There is another website showing Brian’s dreams, where people are invited to participate in a Mass Conciousness doodadd to help throw any light on her disappearance. I know her parents are doctors, and as such, scientists, but I would explore every avenue open to me if it was my 4 year old girl missing (mine is called Alice, she’s blonde and sweet too, and it has been eating me up inside thinking “what if it had been my child?”). I am thinking that maybe Kate & Gerry are too sceptical to look into psychic reports, but I did e-mail them via the Mark Warner resort when Brian posted his first Remote Viewing – it was just so weird, and there was little or no coverage of the event in the US during the early part of the search.
The latest RV’s of Brians certainly seem to be the Estrella da Luz resort complex. Does anyone think it worth going out there to check it out ?
So I’ll try to find that website address and I’ll be back to post it here.
Let’s not give up hope of her being found alive.
Sophia
P.S. Susan – you are so right about calling out, if I were there, I would walk up and down the streets calling to her. I know her parents want to appear dignified, and they have, but if it were me …
87 Vanessa // 20th May 2007 at 7:54 pm
Sophia I am in Southern Spain, in Andalucia it is a hefty drive from here but I am not sure how much more of the sleepless nights I can take. I cannot really afford (work and family) to go there but it is looking ever likely that I am going to have to do this for my own sanity. I am most certainly closer than many here.
Sophia I have checked it all out believe me there is nothing on the internet other than their site for the complex. If you saw Brian’s latest RV you will know from the forum what I think. Should I chance my arm and ring the number or should I pass it on?? I do not know what the hell to do for the best. The last thing I want to do is give the family false hope and detract the authorities from the case on a possible wild goose chase. Neither do I wish do do anything which might harm her should I ring this number. This is a horrible situation to be in not knowing whether you have real information or false. I think I should pass it on, it could well be so innocent and then I would feel bad
I agree I would shout from the roof tops and knock on every door. I am the mother of four grown up kids and 3 grandchildren, none of you know how much Madeleine looks like my eldest Granddaughter, truly. Maybe this is why I have tuned into this the way I have, and maybe I need to take a step back. Let me see what I can find out via my sources here in Spain and those that I have in Portugal maybe I can find someone on the ground, so to speak.
Keep speaking her name, keep her face in your mind and never let her go from your thoughts. I have noticed the news reports in the UK are getting a bit scant, we cannot allow this to happen it has to be kept on top of the news.
Just an after thought. Not detracting from this particular case but does anyone actually have any idea how many children are missing throughout the world? I think we should all take as much time and concern over every missing child. Not telling people how to live, or think but it struck me the other day, there are so many, and unless it is a high profile case like this, we either do not get to hear about it or we do not take enough account of it. I hold my own hands up and admit I have done this but not with disregard but with the attitude of ‘What can I do?’
Besos X
88 Felicity // 20th May 2007 at 8:13 pm
Quote: “My husband is a police sergeant here in the UK and he knows how many calls about dreams come flooding in with a case like this” Quote end.
Then it’s a shame that your husband isn’t out there looking for this poor child, and since the portugeuse police have nothing new to go on, how can it hurt to look into the psychic way of doing it?
Quote:”Add to that the recent news that people are trying to cash in on the reward with fake claims” End Quote.
I would like to boldly speak on behalf of everyone here and say that NO ONE is interested in being given a reward OR gaining recognition – we are united in one thing and one thing only – getting Madeleine back safely to her parents.
Quote:”Even if this dream was spot on if the police storm in to get the guy with no proof or evidence he would get away scott free due to the polices handling of it. I know it’s not fair but that is the way the law works.” End Quote.
-And how disgusting it is that people care more about red tape and search warrants than ending the nightmare that little girl is going through. Laws throughout the world need serious consideration and an overhaul, and there should be a death penalty for anyone who abducts or sexually offends against a child.
Quote: “My heart is still with Madeleine and I pray for her safe return but I really don’t think this is the way to go about it.” End Quote.
- I’d love to hear your constructive thoughts on how exactly it should be gone about then, because 2 and a half weeks on, and the police are no closer to bringing her home.
89 zip // 20th May 2007 at 8:31 pm
This is going from bad to worse.
It is all well and good thanking Pewari for allowing you to post your psychic nonsense on her blog (Although I do believe a few have been rather thick-skinned in presuming she welcomes such talk) but as this seems to be continuing I shall ‘join in’ once again and ask that before any further posts are made you think carefully about what you are doing.
Posting here about emailing the parents and contacting the police etc could encourage other readers to do the same. Enough is enough.
Every time an email is sent, there will be hope at the receiving end that it *could* be a genuine piece of information. It is nothing but cruel to send emails with talk of some person who claims to have had a dream. This is hampering the investigation as much as the Reward Grabbers. Wasting the police’s precious time by urging them to follow ridiculous false ‘leads’ is WRONG.
I respect the right that people should be allowed to have faith in dreams, cards, crystals or whatever but I ask you to respect the right of Madeleine to have all resources put to proper use in finding her.
90 Felicity // 20th May 2007 at 8:40 pm
Quote: “I respect the right that people should be allowed to have faith in dreams, cards, crystals or whatever but I ask you to respect the right of Madeleine to have all resources put to proper use in finding her.”
Do you mean that we should just have faith in the police then? Because that’s worked so far hasn’t it? Not. What does it matter to you if psychics are willing to give their time freely to try and help locate her? you’re obviously a sceptic, which is your right, but it doesn’t give you the right to question other people’s willingness to help. If that was my daughter, I’d want to know anything that might help bring her home to me, and that would include any addresses or names that the psychics had come up with. If you read carefully you will see that a lot of them are very concerned about contacting the police and family with this information for fear of ridicule and not being taken seriously. People like you only reinforce the uncertainty. I wonder what you will say if these pyschics turn out to be right but never contacted the authorities for fear of recrimination. I hope you will be able to live with that. I say go for it guys; the police are doing sweet F.A; we’ve heard nothing from them for 5 days now. If it turns out wrong, then it’s wrong, but if it’s right…
91 Pewari // 20th May 2007 at 8:53 pm
Zip has pretty much summed up my feelings on this (ooo – maybe she’s psychic ;) ). I’ve been pretty patient despite the comments long since drifted from my original post.
I think that people are losing sight of the fact that:
a) this is a blog. Comments are for responding to the post, not as a substitute message board. There are plenty of message boards out there for people if they choose to use them.
b) I am not a message service. You want to organise getting in contact with people? Then sort that out between you.
I do not believe this speculation is helping Madeleine. On the contrary, I feel this continual encouragement to contact authorities for spurious reasons is highly damaging and wasting police resources. This isn’t a game. This is a child’s life.
I strongly believe that I cannot let my own part of cyberspace be responsible for that interference any longer, although I realise I can’t prevent anything off board. I do not want to be responsible for that and I am already highly upset that I could be the source for additional stress for the McCann family.
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